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Thomas.leon
Numero di messaggi : 697 Data d'iscrizione : 24.06.10
| Titolo: Black Eagles & Bosnia 16/03/13, 05:50 pm | |
| Vorrei portare all'attenzione del Concilio questi due comunicati dell'Impero...
- Citazione :
Regarding the Balkan Situation
We, Jade de Sparte d'Avila, Regent of the Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae,
To Boorich Kosaca, Minister of Foreing affairs of Bosnian Kingdom, To the people of Bosnia, To the people of the Balkan Region, To who may hear or read it,
We have heard about the actions that have taken place in the Adriatic Sea We have heard that the Capital City of Zenica has been taken by Albanian armies We have heard of the threats of the Black Eagles towards the Bosnian citizens
Albania has been seeking war for quite some time and a lot of events happen prior the current situation. Rumors and actions behind the scenes created an atmosphere of intrigue and destruction. Actions and reactions occurred on both sides. According to our information, a ship was sent to Bosnia to transport soldiers to Bosnia that should fight against them. Bosnia chose to attack this ship and sunk it finally. Even imperial citizens lost their values in the attack. Albania answered by sinking the only Bosnian ship and finally taking the Capital.
Actions cause reactions that are worse than what happened before. An atmosphere of a never ending vicious circle has been created. No sign of diplomacy but an answer with blood, pain and kills in the name of revenge.
Albania has agreed to discuss peace but revenge isn't the base to seek for it.
Citizens of Zenica died, innocent families suffer the pain of losing beloved souls. Again Albania acts strong and without any official explanation. Albania is seeking for blood, rage, destruction and chaos.
Now after the capital of Bosnia was taken, the Black Eagles blackmail the Bosnian citizens to do what they want. Bear them down to their knees in front of them.
Peace has been wished by the empire many times, we offered our hand to seek for peace in the Balkan region but even though accepted by the Albanian powers, we are now told that a roundtable can take place after the revenge is now done. What will be next? Serbia?
We are truly sorry for Bosnia, friend of the Empire who is close to Our heart. We wish that democracy can be restored very soon.
We ask all good hearted people living in the Balkan to help our Bosnian friends taking their land back!
Signed and sealed in the Imperial Palace of Strasbourg, On the 12th day of March in the year of Grace MCDLXI,
- Citazione :
Letter from the General of the Black Eagles Army
We, Jade de Sparte d'Avila, Regent of the Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae,
To Koron_muzaka, General of the Black Eagles Army
How dare you address the Regent of the Empire in such a way? How could you ever think that you can say my first name like a peasant girl? We are the Regent of the Empire and We don't know you. How dare you threatening Us with the elections? Who do you think you are to impose your view and harass Us? We are not one of your soldiers neither a dog you can bark at! Your words are offensive, your tone insolent and your manners totally absent.
In case you have forgotten, you have clearly given Us an ultimatum and a threat. "You have 48 hours to take back those words that you said for my army Black Eagles" "So, if you dont respond to my words I will write in KAP ( newspapers of RK) and Im sure that Nitro will have many votes in his favour."
So, you pretend being yourself the "truth" and only you can "illuminate" Us. What We read is the words of someone who sends an ultimatum to the Empire, how unwise to do so.
You think you are informing Us? How could you be aware of what We know or not? This is mostly presumptuous. Liberating people by sending them a letter of threats like the one We have read is not what We call an honorable behavior. It is simply being a mercenary.
And again, it wasn't enough; you had to resend Us a letter 5 hours later claiming for an answer, calling Us by Our first name, also "honey" which We don't allow you.
We suggest you to read carefully Our letter as it doesn't only speak of you but about the letter you sent and that We have read. Again, you seem to have short memory, so let me quote you
"Today we entered in Zenica after crushing the defense of the traitors of Bosnia" "I call them traitors because they braked an alliance with Albania" "Im ready to turn back in Albania with my army if you accept this." "For more now you are destroyed and neither the help of Serbians army can't help you" "if you don't collaborate with us to solve this situation for the good of Bosnia, you will be judged as traitors of Bosnia"
Is that what you call liberating people from tyranny? By imposing yours?
You have shown no respect toward Ourselves nor the Empire, We shall have none for you. Your request is denied. The Empire will not tolerate threats nor insults. Contact the KAP if you please, We have nothing to hide. This letter shall be available to all subjects of the Empire so they know how you have behaved toward the Empire and its representative.
We took the time to answer the letter of someone who is not even a Citizen of the Empire. However, this shall be the only answer you will receive from Us as We do not react on mercenaries who do not even know how to behave.
Pro Imperium!
Signed and sealed in the Imperial Palace of Strasbourg, On the 14th day of March in the year of Grace MCDLXI,
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VeronicaDeChallant
Numero di messaggi : 114 Data d'iscrizione : 12.06.10
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Telfusa
Numero di messaggi : 1754 Data d'iscrizione : 14.01.13
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 17/03/13, 11:10 pm | |
| Fantastico! Siamo alleati dell'Albania ma l'ultima cosa di cui abbiamo bisogno è metterci contro l'impero. |
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koron_muzaka
Numero di messaggi : 138 Età : 37 Località : Ovunque c'è acqua Occupazione/Hobby : Admiral of Albanian Royal Marine Data d'iscrizione : 19.04.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 01:01 pm | |
| Ma questa cosa e' una cosa personale tra me e quella che si chiama Jada. Per di piu le cose private li scrive nel forum.
Cmq, arrivera anche' la fine dell SRING e per questo non so perche' voi ci dovete preocupare cosi tanto... Io non sono parte del nessuno consiglio e lei si riferisce a me e non ad Albania o il governo Albanese.
Scusa se SRING e' vostro alleato, ma da adesso sara mio nemico per sempre... (Se Jade vince li elezioni)
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koron_muzaka
Numero di messaggi : 138 Età : 37 Località : Ovunque c'è acqua Occupazione/Hobby : Admiral of Albanian Royal Marine Data d'iscrizione : 19.04.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 01:03 pm | |
| - VeronicaDeChallant ha scritto:
- Not a simply situation!!! And we cannot help!
Stai parlando per SRING credo?Non puoi aiutare SRING? mahhhhhh |
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VeronicaDeChallant
Numero di messaggi : 114 Data d'iscrizione : 12.06.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 02:00 pm | |
| no koron non possiamo aiutare a districare al situazione, le vostre azioni inerenti i rapporti con lo SRING non possono coinvolgere il r2s lo avete detto voi sono azioni personali e legate al regno di albania. |
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Telfusa
Numero di messaggi : 1754 Data d'iscrizione : 14.01.13
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 03:08 pm | |
| Io penso che, data anche la situazione Amesha, non è il caso di metterci contro l'impero. Secondo me il r2s non può permettersi di schierarsi in questa situazione, ma data l'alleanza con l'Albania dovrà mostrare con chiarezza la sua posizione rispetto a quanto succede e pronunciarsi. Parliamo di diplomazia e non di amicizia di qui o di la. Diplomazia è mantenere dei rapporti per il bene del regno e sempre a suo favore.
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koron_muzaka
Numero di messaggi : 138 Età : 37 Località : Ovunque c'è acqua Occupazione/Hobby : Admiral of Albanian Royal Marine Data d'iscrizione : 19.04.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 03:38 pm | |
| Come ho detto, era una lettera privata tra me e lei. Li ho scritto perche' lei parla per mio sacro esercito come se fossi banditi. Per di piu parla anche' per le vostre navi se lo guardate bene... Per di piu Jade l'ha mostrato in forum questa missiva privata.
E io quella Jade la voglio guardare distrutta ad ogni prezzo...pero' sono cose mie personali come ho detto...
Se per caso questa cosa puo distruggere i rapporti di R2S con SRING perche' sono consigliere militare di sua maesta sono pronto a dimettere da quell posto
La diplomazia non e' la mia arma piu forte...la parola data si |
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sofiasperanza
Numero di messaggi : 939 Data d'iscrizione : 04.06.12
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 04:59 pm | |
| Come già spiegato in privato al Ministro direi che la cosa migliore attualmente sia glissare sulla questione e se ci arriverà una domanda diretta dire la verità ossia che i problemi interni al Regno non ci consentono di schierarci militarmente da nessuna parte. Manteniamo così una posizione di neutralità senza dichiararlo apertamente. |
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Vic.
Numero di messaggi : 275 Data d'iscrizione : 14.01.13
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Vangelo
Numero di messaggi : 110 Data d'iscrizione : 12.03.11
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 18/03/13, 10:38 pm | |
| Non è mica una menzogna Signori. Come ha detto la Governatrice non possiamo. |
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VeronicaDeChallant
Numero di messaggi : 114 Data d'iscrizione : 12.06.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 19/03/13, 09:32 am | |
| Non è questtione di glissare, mentire o dire la verità, la cosa migliroe da fare avessimo anche navi, armi ed eserciti sarebeb quela di dichiarare la propria neutralità visti i concordati di alleanza con entrambi i paesi in lotta.
Poi è vero che inimicarci l'impero non givoa mai, ma è anche vero che non è che ci stiano dando questo enorme contributo per risolvere la qeustione Amesha!
Per cui il capo diplomatico quando e se scriveranno alla Regina potrà rispondere che il R2S si dichiara neutrale. |
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koron_muzaka
Numero di messaggi : 138 Età : 37 Località : Ovunque c'è acqua Occupazione/Hobby : Admiral of Albanian Royal Marine Data d'iscrizione : 19.04.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 19/03/13, 11:34 am | |
| - VeronicaDeChallant ha scritto:
- Non è questtione di glissare, mentire o dire la verità, la cosa migliroe da fare avessimo anche navi, armi ed eserciti sarebeb quela di dichiarare la propria neutralità visti i concordati di alleanza con entrambi i paesi in lotta.
Scusa, una domanda semplice... Tu sei con Bosnia o con me? Io non sono Albania...sono Generale dell mio esercito...Ti sta aiutando Bosnia di salire da zero le case ti Abruzzo o ti sto aiutando io? Li hai detto a Jade o a qualcun altro interesato che la nave di Bosnia ha affondato 2 navi Abruzzesi? E tu come principessa cosa hai fatto? La guerra qua si fa tra Serbia e Albania...SRING non entra qua Mi sa che' come Jade pure tu non li sai certe cose, e cosi meglio guardare Abruzzo che ti sta "scivolando" Una cosa non l'avete capito mi sa... Che' Bosnia non fa parte dell SRING...Lasciate stare che non sono cavoli vostri queste. Ciao P.S 18.02.1461 - sofiasperanza ha scritto:
- Una caracca da guerra bosniaca ha affondato due navi nelle nostre acque.
Koron è già vicino e sono partite due Caracche Reali e altre Albanesi dall'Albania.
Koron puoi illustraci la situazione? Ministro Telfusa chiediamo spiegazioni alla Bosnia? |
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VeronicaDeChallant
Numero di messaggi : 114 Data d'iscrizione : 12.06.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 20/03/13, 05:48 pm | |
| Korn please i will never argue with you and I do not want to start now. I know we have two diffeent languages and probably for that you cannot understand what I want to tell you.
I did not know that bosnia sink two of our two ships, when and which ships?
I do not know Jade as you tell, I never talk t her, and I do not know who is she.
I suppose in a wrong way Bosnia was in the SRING, it was a mistake.
I told you that for us that do not have enogh ships and money it is not the right moment to declare war to bosnia, also because you are faraway and you could not defende us and albania at the same time.
SO listen to me, keep calm and try to undrstand what I asaid, that is not longer different of what the queen said, neutrality is the way.
Let me know about the two ships, and me with thequeen and teh other princess will decide what declare to bosnia.
Am I more clear now?
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koron_muzaka
Numero di messaggi : 138 Età : 37 Località : Ovunque c'è acqua Occupazione/Hobby : Admiral of Albanian Royal Marine Data d'iscrizione : 19.04.10
| Titolo: Re: Black Eagles & Bosnia 21/03/13, 09:44 am | |
| Ho capito dall primo momento quando hai scritto le prime parole che non sapevi di tutto e ti ho scritto sopra che' se non sapete tutte le cose meglio se non fatte niente. Il cancelliere Thomas ha portato qua dichiarazioni di Jade, e tu dopo quella hai risposto - VeronicaDeChallant ha scritto:
- Not a simply situation!!! And we cannot help!
Io non ho capito chi volete aiutare!!! tutto qua.... E SRING ha i suoi interessi in Bosnia che voi non li potete guardare. Ti porto qua unico tratato tra SRING e Bosnia e poi chiudiamo questo discorso (Almeno io solo questo vedo nell cancielleria di SRING) - Citazione :
- Treaty of friendship between the Kingdom of Bosnia and the Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae.
First title: About mutual respect
Article 1: The Kingdom of Bosnia recognizes the full and inalienable sovereignty of the Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae and the Holy Roman Emperor that was rightly elected, until their death.
Article 2: The Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae recognizes the full and inalienable sovereignty of the Kingdom of Bosnia and its Ban.
Article 3: The Imperial Crown and the Crown of the Kingdom of Bosnia commit themselves to mutually respecting the rights which are inherent to sovereignty that are the exclusive power to build rules, the exclusive power to do justice, the exclusive power to resort to force within the limitations of conventional commitments. The signatories commit themselves to respecting any nominations, upgrades, ennoblements decided by the legitimate sovereign or their representatives of the other side.
Article 4: The Imperial Crown and the Kingdom of Bosnia commit themselves to mutually respecting the political regimes in respecting the rights of the peoples.
Article 5: On the basis of this common recognition, both parts commit themselves to respecting the dignity linked to each of them and to treat as equals.
Second title: About friendship
Article 6: The Imperial Crown and the Crown of the Kingdom of Bosnia offer each other peace and sincere friendship; they will do everything to ensure that the Contracting Parties shall ensure that this friendship is maintained.
Article 7: It will be avoided anything that could alter this friendship but instead promote cultural and diplomatic relations between their territories.
Article 8: The Contracting Parties recognize the friendship that unites them, and undertake not to create trouble on the other signatory's territory by any means whatsoever.
Third title: About diplomacy
Article 9: Any official ambassador shall enjoy diplomatic immunity and freedom of movement at its official presence in the other signatory's territory when having received the agreement.
Article 10: This immunity protects its beneficiaries from prosecution without the consent of the province of the ambassador. The immunity covers all diplomatic decisions taken by either party officials and guarantees the free exercise of their office at any time. Therefore, the immunity does not concern any crimes and misdemeanors external to the diplomatic function.
Fourth title: About the respect of the treaty
Article 11: The Kingdome of Bosnia and the Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae have to respect the whole dispositions of this treaty in good faith. It has a direct worth in both judicial systems and can be referred to by anyone.
Article 12: If one of the parties thinks that the other does not respect its commitments, it can get out of its own obligations until there can be a consultation about the matter.
Read, approved and signed in Strasbourg this 15th day of February MCLDXI For the Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae
Jade de Sparte d'Avila, Regent of Sacrum Romanorum Imperium Nationis Germanicae
Read, approved and signed in February 18th, year of Lord 1461 For the Kingdom of Bosnia
130664 Brojcek, Ban of Kingdom of Bosnia Guardate tutto cosa e' scritto sopra e poi guardate questo link https://2img.net/h/oi50.tinypic.com/1yn6h1.jpg - JADE ha scritto:
We are truly sorry for Bosnia, friend of the Empire who is close to Our heart. We wish that democracy can be restored very soon.
We ask all good hearted people living in the Balkan to help our Bosnian friends taking their land back!
qualchuno mi puo illuminare se mi sbaglio Passo e chiudo |
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